Date: 14th April 2010
A few of the comments and emails I received on the last nutrition rant made me realize that I wasn’t as clear as I could be about what “listening to your body” meant.
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Good points Will. I find a combination of the Paleo/Zone/ Mediterranean diet (lean meats, nuts, fruits, veggies, and good unsaturated fats) seem to work well most of the time for training and maintenance. I do; however, believe in the scale and circumference measurements to keep on track. For performance (redpointing), a cutting phase through limited calorie restriction does seem to help for a few days prior depending on where you are with training periodization.
great post. i'm new to CF, but not new to training and tough workouts.. i keep going to the CF gym and all the CFers talk about how sick and gross eating a bite of bread makes them feel! i've been eating paleo for a month with a few 'cheats' and it's definitely helped tuned me in to how food makes me feel. i like the lean meat and veggies almost all the time, but really, if my body wants it, i feel really awesome and happy after some pizza and beer! especially if the pizza and beer was enjoyed after a good performance in the mountains/on a run or bike ride.
Hell yeah! I think about all the amazing physical things that have been done on starvation rations or a junk diet and just laugh when someone gets all bent mentally about eating two slices of pizza. Lighten up!
Will you've been cranking out some truly dynamite blogs. Great work. I am a rock and ice climbing in upstate ny. I am trying to train 5 days per week – solid – climbing 3 days and doing CF twice a week.
I am curious what you think of Mtn Athlete and Gymjones. Both seem more climber specific and incorporate long range training plans and mental training.
cheers, Carolyn
Hi Carolyn, thanks. I have read a little about Gym Jones and Mountain Athlete, as well as talked with Mark (Gym Jones) a lot over the years, I respect his work ethic tremendously. I like some of the stuff Rob is doing on his site too, cool ideas.
I don't feel I know either program well enough to comment extensively on it, but my take on "General" training is that it's general, and should not be sports-specific. Most of the specific strength you need for climbing will come from climbing; CF will not make you a better climber, but it will make you a better functional human, and over the long term that will help you keep moving forward as a climber. Make sense? If you want to climb harder then train by climbing, and do so with constantly varied functional climbing movements done at high intensity (sound familiar, CF ripoff ha ha, just made that up, I amuse myself sometimes).
I did see a workout on Mountain Athlete designed to improve one's ability to climb cracks. It may well have modestly improved someone's ability to climb cracks, but not as much as the same time put into climbing on a crack machine would have. If you have very specific goals then train very specifically… I don't train for climbing when I do CF…
Long answer and maybe not as clear as you'd like, but check your training against performance, and compare it to those using other systems. If the 14-year old new climber is progressing faster than you then ask," Why?" Is it because he or she is in the climbing gym four hours a day four days a week while you're there for two hours twice a week? Do you want to be a better climber or to have a better Fran time? Both are good goals, just different, and will require different training strategies.
Hope that helps, interesting stuff to think about!
thanks will. pretty much affirming some of thinking. all these programs can and will advance your basic level of fitness. this is invaluable but not the whole picture for climbers.
I too don't know a ton about GJ and MA though both have a more sport specific model. MA has the crack training and the drytooling cave and GJ seems to have a mental fitness component too. And both seem to offer training modules for endurance for alpinism and mountaineering.
Obviously life sometimes makes climbing (even indoor) impossible so cross training has an appeal there. I know for myself I have hit a bit of a wall trad grade wise but have a very hard time motivating to do gym climbing or outdoor bouldering both of which I know would help. Instead I find xfit more accessible, team oriented with set bench marks and goals I can focus on.
Thank god beer's in there on the feel good side! I'm sold.
Seriously, great posts and no-nonsense advice. Thanks!
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